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If one knows or reasonably suspects that P will or is highly likely to result from doing X to Y, then regardless of whether P should result (arguments include Y's free will and Y's ability/responsibility to make choices re: how to respond to X, blah blah freakin' blah), I would argue that one is at least partially responsible for P happening if'n one does X to Y, regardless of the fact that ultimately Y CHOOSES for P to occur.

And now, to balance my day, I'm getting out and about. Later I shall return to the Hive and BAPAMAP.

technically versus actually

Date: 2009-06-04 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifeofreilly.livejournal.com
It is all well and good to be technically correct (free will, adults, choices) but as anyone who has ever done any contract negotiation will tell you, you can be an asshole, immoral, unethical and abusive all while following the letter of an agreement.

I have vowed never to knowingly make a decision that will be "technically correct" or within the bounds of the letter of an agreement but that is likely to be outside the spirit of an agreement.

That way leads to the dark side. If you have to negotiate for something and wheedle and bargain (interpersonal relationship wise) I'll suggest that it's not the best idea in the first place.

"Well, she SAID it was okay..."

"But did you know that what you were doing was likely to result in her being even more fucked up and destroyed than before, but went along with it out of your own selfish interests"

"She agreed to it- she's an adult. I've done nothing wrong"

"But you're older, more experienced and more emotionally savvy and understand that what you were doing was incredibly hurtful to this person."

"She's an adult and made that decision. She knew what she was getting."



This situation has been played out before me time and again and it sickens me. I've made the mistake once and I'll never do that again. It is our responsibility as humans who are ostensibly loving and caring and trustworthy to do what is *actually* the right thing to do and not to do what is *technically* the right thing to do.

Being in your mid-30's and making out with 15 year old girls at Rocky is ethically wrong but as long as no sex is had may be technically legal. It doesn't make it right.

It's not about being technically right unless one wants to live their life as a lawyer and the world is their courtroom. And we all know how much people love lawyers.


Sorry- I got off on a rant there.


Date: 2009-06-05 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragan.livejournal.com
That actually made sense to me and I totally agree with you.

Date: 2009-06-07 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildwoosi.livejournal.com
So, if P results from doing X to Y, then what is the derivative of Y?

Date: 2009-06-07 07:54 am (UTC)

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